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Great synopsis. I picked up on the same 'quality' aspects of the film (in compare to Reloaded), however:

I loathed it.

I loathed it so much I am angry at it.

Most of all because:
- Where were Trinity and Neo for half the movie? Fuck the storyline - I paid to see Trinity and Neo. I don't "care" about the other characters - I just want Trinity and Neo actionn and thumping house music with stylie fight sequences.
- What the FUCK is with the Jesus shit?! :-o I beg to differ DK - I feel the ENTIRE film was a 'Lucasism' in that respect. Crucifix position? Light spooling out of bodies in the form of a cross? FFS! What's next - Neo's NOT dead and will rise three days later? Will we be treated to "Matrix:Resurrection" next?? :-o
- I thought the Matrix was a "corny american lines repeated by other characters"-free zone?
- No Twins at the nightclub?
I know it must be a nightmare to write an ending for a trilogy, but does that mean it has to be CORNBALL??

And the worst part is, I shelled out $35 for the priveledge of enduring it in GoldClass.
I believe it to be the biggest load of arse/cop out piece of bullshit excuse that I can remember.

Revolutions is to (what I believe was born of the 1st Matrix film) the Matrix what Ewoks and JaJa are to StarWars - only worse.

I feel like a total sucker for money I spent on merchandise surrounding the film, believeing I was buying into a great Agatha Christie-ish perplexity.

Fuck you, Wachowski's. If I want Muppets In Space, I expect it to be named as such.

I'm off to watch the MTV Movie awards version - JT and Will Ferrel have me glued to the screen in stitches every time - I'd rather 2 hours of THEM thanks.

Posted by: SaMbO on November 8, 2003 01:56 PM

on your points....

- Instead of the usual edit back and forth between the two story threads, zion and neo/trin, they chose to play on in it's entireity and then show you the other. This was more of an unusual choice than fucking up the story, in my opinion of course. It plays well for me, because they put Zion in the worst position possible and then let you hang.,...
- "You are my own personal Jesus Christ" - Matrix. The Jesus/Neo thing has been in from the first film. The symholism is knee deep throughout all the films.... As to Neo not being dead.... Neo is dead. His spirit(¿) lives on as part of the matrix, possibly.... or if you take the Gibson view... like Wintermute/Neuromancer, the union of smith/neo becomes the matrix.... have to think more on this, but Neo is dead.
- um..... yeah.... some lines (re: around protection of Zion, were dodgy.... I did mention clichés)
- I've said it before, but no-one listens. The corporeal forms of the twins were destroyed in the explosion. We saw them as ghosts escaping, but they lost their ability to switch in and out. However cool.... they were one-dimensional characters anyway [:

It could ended two ways, the way it did or with the discovery of the matrix-within-a-matrix way...

Knowing that the Matrix MMORPG was coming out, set AFTER revolutions, a long time ago... the whole matrix within a matrix looked like it wouldn't happen. The matrix was never going to be destroyed in revolutions....

There is complexity in the ending, I do not think it is some trite ending they made up at the last minute (although I still think the Matrix (trhe orig) was written as a single film and then left open for more...)

...anyway.... I knew upon walking out that people would be annoyed.... hell I was annoyed at some things, as I mentioned above, but I still enjoyed it.

Posted by: Decay on November 10, 2003 11:52 AM

It seems I am not alone in my viewpoint:
http://slate.msn.com/id/2090943/

Posted by: SaMbO on November 11, 2003 02:27 AM

Revolutions Rocked !!!!

GREAT MOVIE (with alot of unanswered questions) or at least ..... can anybody say it aint over until the Oracle sings?

Bear with my comments, I'm venting ... they go from concern/questions to final comments.

I went into Revolutions expecting (don't know why I'd do that?) a more "black & white" closure and came out annoyed and bothered. The Wachowski's did it, they really did it. They pissed us off so we could find the holes in the story line. Is Revolutions the ending? Of course not. That's like watching the original Matrix and thinking that was it, game over. But not knowing that it was a trilogy, The Matrix is far from over. The Matix: Resurrection (going along with biblical terminology) does have a nice ring to it.

Please .... the train station ..... don't humiliate me ever again !!!!! That scene could've been cut down to 4 mintues instead of 15 mintues.

Why does Neo have super powers outside the Matrix? He's the one, ya, the One inside the Matrix WITH super powers. On the outside he is still only human and labeled as The One. He is only human because of his death, or did he die?(we just left Neo being taking into the machines not moving). Were they that clear that Neo is dead? Maybe, maybe not.

Trinity dies, just like that? Disappointed! I would've thought Trin could have died by something else in the Machine world (other than a ship crash). She could've stepped infront of an attacking machine (sacrificing herself for Neo). Oh Well.

How come Agent Smith, with the battle between Neo, didn't use his .... "How can you talk, if you're unable to speak?" bit? Ya know, make Neo transfer into a the one (without hands, feet, eyes, etc.)

How can Agent Smith take over the Matrix (with ease) and be easily exploded from within? Obviously the battle between Smith and Neo was never going to end, ever. Why prolong the fight scene? My opinion of course.

O.K. - now the great parts of the movie, It's a fantastic "Empire Strikes Back" Feel. Didn't feel like "Jedi" at all. Full of surprises !!! A roller coaster when the battle gets started. The battle between the machines and Zion .... SPECTACULAR!!!! The battle between Bain and Neo in the real world .... EXCELLENT! The machine world ... Eerie and Creepy (exactly what I expected).

Ya see, it's not over. There are so many uncertainties to The Wachowski's plan. They did Revolutions just to Piss us off so we can be sitting here posting comments on how bothered we are. But are we all really bothered? I was for a short time after the credits started to roll. But for right now? REVOLUTIONS ROCKED !!!

Posted by: Believe in the Red Pill on November 12, 2003 10:23 AM

... I liked the third one... I still like the first one most ... and while the ending was pretty much 'happily ever after'-ish, meh... whatever. I don't very often walk out of a movie not liking it, unless there were scenes that made me not want to watch ... most of these involve things that make me cringe, or things that are there to scare me or otherwise freak me out.

Having said that, I was a bit tired watching the movie last night - final exam was that afternoon, and though we were in gold class (thanks to A & I for the tix at christmas last year!) everything felt a bit ... big for me to be sitting so close to the screen.

Posted by: [0-0] on November 13, 2003 01:05 PM

I'll wade into this.

As a sci-fi movie I enjoyed it. As the Matrix finale I was disappointed.

I agree with most of what Decay said. The Zion battle was fantastic and all the CG was spot on. I just found that, overall, it felt less like The Matrix and more like Starship Troopers or Terminator. What I loved about the first movie (The Matrix that is) was the experience of looking through Neo's eyes as he discovered that his world was actually this thing called the Matrix, and then discovering that he had these wondrous abilities. When he first learnt kung-fu, first beat Morpheus, dodged bullets and saw the matrix code and beat an Agent - that was good stuff. I guess everything was just new and exciting the first time around.

I was also puzzled by Neo's new abilities in the 'real world'. If you subscribe to the biblical analogy though (Jesus had skills on earth and in heaven) maybe it makes sense?

Obviously they left the story a little open at the end, if not for more movies, then at least for all the spin-off games, books and comics that are inevitable. I know it is difficult to produce a good ending that satisfies the viewer without being patronising, but wanted to see a little more of what happened next; I really wanted to see those characters who had doubted and mocked Neo and Morpheus (Roland, Commander Lock) get their just desserts (humble pie?). I wanted to see what they would do with Merovingian, but I guess he is a standard programmatic feature in the Matrix so lives to fight another day too.

I saw it last weekend and the more I think about it now, the more I think I need to see it again and see what it is like the second time around. Decay, what did you think the 2nd time around?

Posted by: krusty on November 13, 2003 05:38 PM

I finally got around to seeing Revolutions. I must say I actually liked it a lot. I expected complete crap (Reloaded had prepared me), so I was quite surprised. The battle for the port was very good, though the machines obviously have never played Galaga!!

The bits I disliked were when things slowed down and people were just being people. Then the inadequacies of the script showed through. Also the patriotic flag waving "If we have to die, then give them hell first" shit was just that... shit.

I got the distinct feeling the film was written with Reloaded almost pushed aside. The French dude? Aside from setting up a nice battle he was pretty much a throw away from the previous film. The train station. Can't say I cared a lot. The ending. I quite liked it. It made some sort of sense (I think).

All in all I really liked the film. Matrix was a good film, but it was never particularly brilliant. The writers are good when things move, but they really can't write for normal conversation. I think Revolutions was the best we could hope for, and it tidies up the series quite well. Having said that, I don't think I'll be watching it again (or any of the others, to be honest).

Posted by: sparker on May 13, 2004 10:58 AM

there is a million dollar reward being offered
for the new question connected to the matrix...

WHO IS VIEOME?

I am not sure if it shoulb be VIEONE
as in life one.

Posted by: adam on November 20, 2005 11:42 PM

there is a million dollar reward being offered
for the new question connected to the matrix...

WHO IS VIEOME?

I am not sure if it shoulb be VIEONE
as in life one.

Posted by: adam on November 20, 2005 11:43 PM

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