image 1
b
Kodak Photo Processing Saga

Well, those of you that know me I tend to go overboard with photo taking. Afterall, photos are probably the best souvenir you are ever going to have of your once in a life time travel adventure.

Plus, if you are like me, a third of the photos turn out dodge so you need more than what you actually need...

Anyway, for a few weeks when I returned to the home country, I visited a few photo shops - Teds, Rabbit, Kodak and Amcal (ok, i know the latter is not a photo shop and they send it off to to kodak). After getting a few quotes, for 96 rolls of film (for jules and I) no one was going to give me a price better than the VIP price (in other words, back of the shop a docket price). Only Kodak Chadstone offered a 10% discount on top of the VIP price, which, was $2 a roll more expensive anyway.

oh, I chose not to get them developed at Kmart, even though it is heaps cheaper, because Kamrt Burwood has a tendency to lose rolls of film and colours can come out a bit funny...

Anyway, to cut the long story short, I chose to get our photos developed at Kodak Chadstone - the guy displayed the most customer service and said he will do white borders and matte finish at no extra cost (originally $2 extra each per roll). So I though Kodak would be the best way to go. So, I was paying extra for Kodak trained professionally staff to do a good job with our photos.

What happened?
I got a phone call from the friendly Kodak dude, saying that "oh, we had a problem with matte paper, so we had to develop them on gloss and the casual that came in last night *forgot* to put white borders on some of your photos ".

Ok then, why go ahead processing out photos on gloss without consuting the customer about the situation and asking them whether they wanted to wait until the next delivery of matte paper? He knew I was in no hurry with the photos. And why not re process the photos with the white border rather than leave them without white border? Before I picked them up, I was under the impression I would have a miss mathce dbunch of photos, some with borders and some without borders which would totally look dumb in my photo albums.

So, I picked up the photos, found out "some of your photos do not have white borders" turned out to be all of mine not have white borders at all, not half half like I was led to believe.

While jules and I were looking through our photos we found smugdes on some, some were missing and on a handful there was a thickish black line on the edge, like the person had not cut the photo correctly or negative.

Excuse me if i am wrong, but are we not paying double the price because the kodak staff look at each photo to make sure they are correct? So I was informed anyway.

Oh, must I add that one packet of mine had white borders and matte paper so what was the deal with matte paper being damaged? Was that just an excuse to cover up that fact that they forgot and it would be costly for Kodak to re do all our photos?

Anyway, there is more.

Julie, Em and I sat down one night and painstankigly selected which photos from all of our piles we wanted reprints. This continued with the lengthy process to fill out the negative slips oursleves to save kodak staff's time.
We had to make sure that the ones jules wanted we wrote needed a white border.

The outcome:
- we got mulitple copies of the one photo (eg 15 copies of 1 particular photo) not even asked for
- white borders were missing off some when stated we wanted white borders
- extra copies of photos that we asked for, ie, we got 4 copies instad of 2
- white borders on a set of reprints that did not have white borders requested on the envelope reprint folder at all
- occurrence of thick black line on edge of photos
- overcharged for about 50 photos!

So, jules and I went in the next night, spoke to some girl about our concerns all she could say was "I don't usually work in this store, they do things differently here, I do not know how to process a refund you will have to come back"

We have spent $1500 on film and photo precessing between three of us and she told us to come back and could not even solve the problem? She didn't even try to attempt to solve the situation, didn't even say that she would take down our name and number and get the manager to call us back.

So, another girl came over and explained that "the machine sometimes does not role the negative on properly that is why there are black edges, and this negative has been cut crooked, it just depend on who you get developing your photos"

That to me, is no excuse, each kodak staff member should be taking the same care with every photo as if it was their own. They are supposed to be the professionals, better than kmart and Big W. If I wanted those kind of errors, I would have paid half the price, and got my photos developed at kmart.

Anyway, she was able to give us the refund, my digital prints were not ready as they should have been and they did not even inform me.

As consequence of their bad service, I have left my 500 digial prints at Kodak, I plan never to collect them. I do not want sub standard photos so they can keep them. I don't answer my mobile when they call, presumably telling me to pick them up they are ready - funny that, they never called me to say that "don't come in tonight, your photos are not ready".

So now, I still had to get my digital prints developed so I decided to do my own "today tonight" test. I dropped off the same digital photo (a 640x480 resolution, and a 1200x1600 resoultion) to Kodak Brandon Park, which is Camera House and Kmart Brandon Park.
Kodak Brandon Park (who by the way prints on fuji film) 640x480 print turned out fuzzy, which, well, i expected as such as now i realise that the 640x480 does not print a 6x4inch photo but would you believe that KMART Brandon Park's photo of the same 640x480 image was far clearer? No difference between 1600x1200 photo as you would expect.

So, there you go.
Paying double the price to get your photos developed by so called professionals does not mean better quality prints.

Go to Kmart. Stuff Kodak.

I've written a letter of complaint, will ask for compensation, apparently that is their policy, follow entry up to what Kodak offer to do will come soon. Have also posted a complaint on notgoodenough.org website....


Comments

eek! :-o
What a nightmare...

Just to clarify though, are you saying that there was no visible difference between the 640x480 and the 1600x1200 when printed ('developed')?

And have you heard back from Kodak yet.. or at least have they acknowledged reciept of your complaint?

Posted by: SaMbO on December 1, 2003 03:43 AM

to calrify...there is a visible difference between 640x480 and 1600x1200 when printed/developed...

i will have to re read my post but i think what i mean though is that kmart prnted teh 640x480 better than kodak camera house....?

too busy with wedding to put the finishing touches on letter....so will post that this week hopefully....will keep you posted...

Posted by: b on December 1, 2003 11:21 AM

oh i understand the confusion here.
what i meant is that there was no difference between the way kmart and kodak printd/developed the 1600x1200 photo.

completely off the topic it is really hard to type with fake nails....

Posted by: b on December 1, 2003 11:23 AM

ahhh - right. gotcha.

And yeh - know what you mean re the nails. Mine are so long I'm having to 'flat finger' type.

UMM!! NOT because I have acrylic nails, but because I'm too lazy and they grow real fast.
Me being 'in touch' with my feminine side vs my long nails, are TOTALLY unrelated.

/me blinks

(DK or Droidy are gonna have a go at this - I can feel it..)
;p

Oh PS: Was nice to put some faces at the wedding to all the names here too. :-)

Posted by: SaMbO on December 2, 2003 02:09 AM

1. The people at major wholesale labs such as Fuji, Konica, and Kodak are all professionals. (Kodak often puts out inferior products.)
2. I'm surprised you got white border prints at all, as borderless has been the preferred format for the last thirty years.
3. Black lines on borders of prints usually mean either the locating notch on the negative is off center which positions the frame incorrectly in the printing gate, or the negatives were cut into strips with some cuts taking place too close to the image and reprinted for some reason.
4. A 'professional' lab doesn't run out of matte paper.

Sorry about your bad experience.

gary

Posted by: gary druse on December 30, 2003 02:50 PM

I asked for white borders because I thought they would look better when in an ablbum with black pages like the henzo albums.

isn't the reason why borderless have been the preferred format for the past 30 years because the technology was not available????

anyway, an update, coz Sambo was asking, I have now sent a letter to kodak head office before xmas, I still have not had any acknowledgement from it (probably beucase of xmas and new year) so my next attempt will be ringing the Kodak store, which is franchised as a Smith's Kodak, to find out the general manager's name and an address so I can personally address the letter. Then I think I will continue sending a letter once a week if I don't hear anything.

If they are professional like they should be they should do something about their stuff up.

Posted by: b on January 3, 2004 04:02 PM

I am a Manager with Smith's Kodak Express in a store in Queensland. I agree that the service you received was not up to scratch, but not all Smith's employee's are like this. Any photolab throughout the world is only as good as the staff pushing the buttons. The quality doesn't have a great deal to do with the name of the company, but the attitude of the staff. I have seen great prints come out of a lab one minute and dreadful ones the next. Please don't judge all Kodak Stores by your single experience. Do some research and I think you would find that there are not many lab's in the world which haven't made an error at some time or other. In response to Pro. Lab's never running out of matte paper, you can run out if the courier doesn't deliver on time, orders are filled incorrectly at the warehouse, orders go missing in transit, damaged in transit and I'm sure there are other reason's us mere humans can make mistakes.

Posted by: Fay on June 1, 2004 09:15 PM

I am a Manager with Smith's Kodak Express in a store in Queensland. I agree that the service you received was not up to scratch, but not all Smith's employee's are like this. Any photolab throughout the world is only as good as the staff pushing the buttons. The quality doesn't have a great deal to do with the name of the company, but the attitude of the staff. I have seen great prints come out of a lab one minute and dreadful ones the next. Please don't judge all Kodak Stores by your single experience. Do some research and I think you would find that there are not many lab's in the world which haven't made an error at some time or other. In response to Pro. Lab's never running out of matte paper, you can run out if the courier doesn't deliver on time, orders are filled incorrectly at the warehouse, orders go missing in transit, damaged in transit and I'm sure there are other reason's us mere humans can make mistakes.

Posted by: R on June 1, 2004 09:16 PM

As a manager, you miss the whole point and shouldn't be making excuses.

There was not one mistake, but numerous mistakes thoughout the whole photo developing process.

Yes, matte paper can run out, but if a customer requested matte paper then don't develop them on glossy paper, ring the customer and explain the situation.

To further add to the lack of customer service i received from Kodak, I posted a letter of complaint to the headoffice in January. Do you think I have a reply yet? Nope.

How can I not judge all kodak stores from my experience? You are pretty much admitting that all labs make mistakes and are only as good as the operator! This surely should not be the case, all operators should take due care with every photo. That is what they are getting paid to do, that is what we are paying for. This is simply not good enough.

I will never get any photos developed from a kodak store again, not when I can pay half the price and get them done at kmart for better quality.

Posted by: b on June 9, 2004 07:45 PM

to add furhter, I was obvisouly lied to becuase one roll was developed on matte paper...so what was the problem with the matte paper?

Everything about my experience was unprofessional and I was not compensated nor was there any offer of compensation.

Posted by: b on June 9, 2004 07:47 PM

Post a comment
Name:


Email Address:


URL:


Comments:


Remember info?



reviews

minirandomimage
Log In...
IRC
Install sidebar
Also Here...
Linkworthy...
Geek and news...
Comics....